Polymath

I just downloaded the demo thats suppose to be 60 minutes playing time but ended up being 10 minutes as when i put it on pause to use the restroom it locked up and when i rebooted it said my trial had expired... So i didnt accomplish anything but get a few buildings placed and thats it..
Game looked amusing but after reading your comments above i doubt i will pay the $20 for the full release .....

Jason, click the dorm building and then click the build icon. Instead of buildings there is now bunk beds and furniture to put in the building. Once the furniture is in and you have an excercise yard et.- the prisoners will slowly arrive on the bus.

how do you get the prisoners to work in the shops????

how do you delete this game

I am having trouble finding how to add beds to housing, food tables to mess hall, work to the factory, etc. Basically, I put up a building and it is empty inside, and I can't find any instruction in the manual about how to add the things it needs! Please help? Thanks.

i have a pretty sweet prison.. maxed out.. anyways when new prisioners come theyre not allocated to a cell.. i have no clue what that is.. i click on the prisoners and i do see the cell with an x through it.. how can i allocate them to their cell???

good info at http://prisontycoon.blogspot.com/

Hi,
I want to reach the next security level (Med),
but I can't build building with this security level. How can I reach the security level 2?

This game blows. No instructions no nothing. Gameplay is crap and music is soooo annoying.

Are there executions in this game? I see that you can build an electric chair and an execution chamber, but can they actually be used?

I noticed there was what looked like a manual at the beginning of the game the first time I brought it up. How do I get to that again? And how do you level up? Merely putting up more towers or are fences and walls involed?

How do you get inmates for death row ounce you bought it and how do you use it on them?

This game is great I am up to 250 prisoners ande have max sec. To move the camra anglehold down the ctrl key and move the mouse around till you get the view you want. right click to turn the buildings around.

m is the code to get more money

can the execution rooms really be used?

Could someone please explain (it detail) what the requirements are to be upgraded to higher security levels? I have build towers, guard rooms, etc. and my 90 prisoner prison is still low security. HELP! Thanks!!

John and curious others, I believe I've found something. After 40 prison years, I decided to install a few more prison watch towers. When I did that the security level increased to Med. Then when I upgraded all those towers to Med. watch towers, the security level upgraded again to High, then when I upgraded all those watch towers to High, the security level upgraded again to Max! It seems watch towers are the secret we've all been looking for. Seriously, install more than you want just to get the level to upgrade. I even tested this by tearing down a tower, and when I did, the security level decreased. There you go.. have fun!

Ok, now I'm having trouble with unallocated prisoners. Almost every turn, I end up with prisoners that are unallocated and then when the next day comes they are escaped. I can't figure out how to alocate prisoners that are not allocated. Can anyone tell me how to allocate prisoners that wont automatically allocate?

I just bought Prisoner Tycoon 2. I can't seem to get any prisoners into my Jail! I think the problem is I can't build beds in my dormitorium. How can I do this? PLEASE HELP!

There's a Prison Tycoon 2 now?

I'm not sure if I can stomach spending $20 on another ValuSoft game.

Ok, just got back from another mis-attempt at this game. Its official: Prison Tycoon 2 is a broken game.

This time I tried what others have said; micromanage like a mofo, picking up and moving people where they need to be, no go. Although you can pick up that crawling on all fours, mortally wounded inmate and place him in the clinic, he won't use it. Nor will the hungry inmate eat, even if you put him RIGHT AT the chow hall counter. To top it all off, you have to watch your "crack" staff more than the inmates. Your guards will beat down an inmate on just a whim. In turn, the inmates will beat down the doctors and janitors. Soon (after getting about 14 inmates) you have a medical department filled with half dead inmates and staff members, crawling around the clinic, but not getting help. Frustrated, I used cheats and built the largest medical building and staffed it with about 12 doctors, still was not enough...

Thats not even counting the hunger issue, inmates and staff alike, with a full hunger bar won't eat. This isn't like a real prison, where ALL the inmates eat at the same time, they can wander in and eat when they damn well feel like it, which isn't often. Instead, they would rather go hungry and walk outside and punch out the doctor who just healed him 5 minutes ago.

Before giving up hope on this game, I came back one more time and tried pressing every button on the keyboard in the fruitless hopes that some "schedule planner" menu would appear and leave me saying "doh!, why didn't I think of that before," but it was all for naught, what you see is what you get, which isn't much. This sucks because the concept of this game is awesome. Most games that are this bad I would have quit within 5 minutes, but I really wanted to like this game, kind of like a dog thats so ugly that its cute. Unfortunatly, this game is just too ugly to bear.

Concept and design: A
Gameplay and mechanics: F-

Final Verdict: Don't bother

My buildings were not a "cluster fKKK." They were spaced out fairly decently, with the yard, chow hall, and medical wing in fairly centralized locations. Admin and the guard buildings were spaced further away from the main buildings.

If the game were merely difficult, I would have no problem with it. My beef with the game, (if you were a prison guard, it should be your beef too) is the fact that you have little to no control. I don't know how things were at San Quentin, but where I worked, if an inmate had anger problems, he was written up and locked in the SHU for a period. In this game, the guards just wander over and beat the inmate down for no reason, and this for some reason lowers the inmates anger. If this game was realistic, the officer would be immediatly fired for unnecessary use of force.

Like I said, control is non existant; you should be able to control officers schedules: ie. 0800 patrol chow hall, 1000 patrol dormitory A, 1200 lunch break, 1400 conduct perimeter patrol, etc. The same should go for inmates, and other staff members as well, there is no reason why we shouldn't be able to click on the kitchen and set something like: 0530 B dorm breakfast chow, and with the click of a button have all of the B dorm inmates report to the dining hall to eat. This system should also go for medical purposes, and work details.

Thats boring you say? Setting schedules that everyone follows to the letter (barring isolated incidents, lockdowns, etc) are how prisons operate. Control is paramount; as you play the role of warden, you should be able to override pretty much anything within reason; ie: telling a guard with a high anger level to take a break in the staff room to cool down, or sending a troublesome inmate to a higher security level.

Sadly, none of these things are implemented, which makes the game a chore. Mr. Rockwall, if you have in fact created a highly successful prison on this game I would love to see pictures, or even a video if you use FRAPS, since I can't seem to grasp this unweildy game.

But I am sure, that as a former prison guard yourself, you surely must agree with some of the things I mentioned.

Listen People!
It is true, this game is frustrating as all hell. In the beginning, I'd make this wonderful prison then it would quickly fill up and just as quickly I would run deeply into debt with no hope of ever turning it around. I finally realized that you just have to take it slow - build modestly, make sure prisoners are working, make sure things are well maintained, have plenty of social workers (more important than security, I've found), and soon enough you'll have income and be able to expand and do more interesting things. If you realize things have gone horribly wrong just figure it out what happened and why and then start over. It will take a while as you're always learning something new, but you will find yourself happily stuck to it for days.

Since cheats have been posted, I'll post this:
- Keep dorms near amenities centers: prisoners wake up and quickly get bored. After boredom comes anger, and with anger comes fighting.
- Keep factories as close as possible to the mess hall. The best time to get prisoners to work is when they are happy, and eating makes them happy.
- Make sure there are amenities in the dorm rooms and that the prisoners can get out and move around. Vending machines are the most popular, but also the most expensive - but not as expensive as a prisoner dying, or being too busy fighting to go to work! And be mindful of overcrowding! I've never used anything larger than the 4 capacity bunk beds, and would make sure there is plenty of room for the prisoners as well as the ability for them all to get out. You might think they all have ample space, but click on the dorms in the mornings to make sure there are no brawls and that all the prisoners are occupied with one thing or another. Some may stand around chatting, some will use the dorm's facilities, others will go somewhere else. Perfect.
- Be mindful of maintenance. The prisoners aren't gentle with things, and they stop using something when the maintenance level falls into the 20's. Replace it.

Again, much of the game comes from figuring out how to get the population up and productive and seeing what does what. You'll find new ways of doing things as you get more money and freedom to experiment, but for now don't use the cheats just play the game as best you can.

(For those who seem perpetually befuddled by not gettng any prisoners: Build a dorm, then left click on the building. You'll then be viewing the overhead camera - now click on the trowel. Put some beds in. Now wait. Go build some other stuff, click the fast forward button. The prisoners don't just magically appear, they are dropped off a couple of times a day and have to make their way to the dorms via the front gate.)

Personally I've yet to get to any higher than low security. I thought it might be inadequate funds, but I now have ~$11 million; I also imagined that it was lack of capacity but I presently have about 400 beds (but it seems that the low security population hovers around 200 max). I will try putting in more guard houses - Thanks for the advice.

The problem in this game is the lack of direct control, but it is also what makes it worth playing. You have to figure things out, watch the prisoners, be aware of what they're feeling (and why they're feelign that way) and pay attention to the messages.
Initially I was convinced this game was made by retards, but now I realize that it is a pretty decent and addictive game- Stop whining like bitches for christ sake and take a few minutes to figure it out!

How do you keep the place clean. I had 3 staff buildings filled with the cleaning staff rooms.I had about 30 inmates and about 12-15 cleaning staff and the garbage still kept getting worse.

There is no symbol on the lower left hand corner of the screen?
Maybe you need to re-install....

Ive built dorms etc.. AND added bunks and other minimum (and maximum) requirements. Various ameneties, factories and had a security rating of med.

Now the problem to befuddle peopel.....

My inmates are NOT arriving. Needless to say ive passed more than one day of game time and its rather frustrating.

The prison bus just sits outside with the back doors open all the time from when i first start the scenario or free play.

Gonna try reinstalling but doubt this will fix the bug.

Anyone else had this problem? If so how did you fix it (if at all)?

does anyone know if the codes for prison tycoon work for prison tycoon 2. And why does my computer keep kicking me out of the game?

I have the same problem with the build icon not appearing inside any of the rooms. I can still click on the spot that the building icon is meant to be, although i see no cursor or icon. the first time I know that something is working is after I've clicked a million times and move my cursor over a room, the bed/tv room/etc appears. I've uninstalled the game, reinstalled and yet its happened again. Having spent money on the game, I'm really frustrated that it doesnt work.
Has anyone come across a patch or advice on how to fix this problem

Thanks

I am having the same problem as some other people here. I build everything correctly, but for some reason no prisoners will arrive. WHY?!?!?!?!?!?!

Playing PT2: I have no or little problems with people not doing what they are supposed to with the latest patch.

But my place was way to overcrowded and as soon as the medium sec inmates started arriving there where riots all over.

Anyway what I wonder is if you are just supposed to have death-raw convicts mingling with low sec inmates and such or if there is any doable way to seperate the diffrent sec levels from each other?
Preferably still have some staff flowing trough.

How do I add bunks? E-mail me at Zeeboe82@aol.com if you can help.

why won't my cleaners pick up trash

Stupid game. Played a lot of Tycoon Games.
Idea is great, but it doesn´t work.

2d game that worked would have been better.

stay well clear of this one!

hey i have a problem...I build everything but everything put prisoners still dont come...i built even fences,guard towers,but they still dont come...Its so gay...

me too i cant get the stupid prisioners to come their like dumb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! anyway i did what everyone said like clicking on it and doing the build icon and anyway dong the cheats it doesn't work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

er...its in german. anyone know if i can download some sort of patch to change the language.

ya that something like that happended to me once. but there was one time where there was a huge riot. i mean there was like 45 prisoners against like 10 guards. this riot took place in my large mess hall. all the prisoners took the guards and beat the crap out of them. then the prisoners took the guards in the back of the mess hall where all the ovens were and threw like 3 of the guards in the ovens. it turned out that like 8 prisoners died and only one of the 10 guards survived. it was cool.

does this game have a design folt? its like the building menu is invisable when u go inside the buildings to build beds etc or am i missing somthing?

how do i get a game fixes for this i download the trainer but when i down load the fix it gives me a file that opens up in reason (a music program) how do i change the file to what i needs to be

i am having the same problem, when i click the roof of any building it is only in the camera mode, and i can't click build to put in beds and stuff. ?????? anyone know of a patch?

No matter what I do, I always run out of money. Any idea on how to get more money???

I build the basics required but still run out of money.

There are hardly any prisoners coming into the jail.

I have assigned what little inmates I have to work in the factories but not alot of money comes in.

Also the money cheat above doesnt work. Anyone know where the 'save game' data is stored to be able to Hex Edit it?

good idea for the game but extremely hard to manage.

Help please!

Find instuctions on changing saved game data here. http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=934917&topic=31367671

Pls... Pls... how in the hell do u rotate ur view... All i can do is zoom in.. and zoom out. Left. right.. up... and down... i want to be able to view my places from different angles. Pls help. I feel like a moron and cant figure it out.

Oh and this one is for Zach, if you have built bunks and all of that i would see if the dormitory you built or any other building is right up against the place the prisoners come in, it is the building right next to the place where the bus pulls in, if it is then is probably is blocking the prisoners

for the ? how do i build cells. click on the building and click build.

p.s.

i'm a kid and this isi'nt an email i don't give it out... or my name.

For the ones who cant build a thing inside the building and see just a camera view:

I had this same problem and beleive it or not the game only worked when I updated my video card driver and updated the game.

OK, it seems most people here can't read a friggin manual.

Prisoners are automatically allocated to cells. If you have unallocated prisoners, this means you don't have enough cells of the right type, i.e.: Low prisoners need Low cells, Max prisoners need Max cells. You can re-allocate prisoners by single- or double-clicking the prisoner, and then placing him on/in the cell.

A Star on a prisoner profile means this prisoner is a celebrity prisoner.

Fights can easily be broken up by pausing the game, clicking an inmate, and moving him away from the area, preferably FAR away. You need to keep rival gangs apart if your prison is a hole.

It seems ovens in kitchens and toilets in dorms are only used to kill staff and prisoners. You can prevent this by building furniture over the doors, if possible in your build.

ONLY happy prisoners will work. If a prisoner is not happy, get a guard to give him a good working-over with the baton. [sidebar: In my ver/build, the guard is constantly drawing his piece, but he never uses it. WHY, ValuSoft, will a guard prefer to DIE than KILL???]

Other crapmeisterish things:
Prisoners and workers alike walk through closed doors. Only one door in a building may be used. Plates on tables are always full, chow counters are therefore unnecessary.

I don't think I'll outlay the required funds for PT2.

ay i bought the game prison tycoon 2 and i keep getting bugs and its frustrating. i neeed help how do i stopp gittn these buggs?

I can not get any prisoners in my jail! I have everything the game has to offer. I also have everything that you can put into the buildings but no prisoners! SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!!!!

I tried the cheats on max speed, but the cheats still don't work!!!! Oh and is anyone else getting little lines that look like ink on their desktop??!!??!!

Sorry about the triple post, but jrisdon@aol.net does not work. It is jsmith@aol.net.

In your dreams Cool Man (or should I say Lame Man?)

I mean I love a boy named Cole.

any other prison guards here ?

i can't get this to load past the start up screen.
it shuts down on me as well.

BTW...i'm a C/O in NC

i cant put any prisoner in my buildings either. I am having all the problems that everybody else is having. How do you update your video card

how the hell do you get the guards to take contraband from the prisoners on prison tycoon 2 its pissing me off and while were talking about it how do you get them to work at the factory

thanks

Finally got to med security level. But I can't build cells - help!

(Don't say RTFM as it didn't come with one. The hard-to-find help file is one page long.)

I'm having the same problem as most, my game crashes whenever I try to build too many things too quick, or as simple as destroying a guard tower. the game will crash to desktop and it tells me in the error report that this file is crashing it: 12a7_appcompat.txt --- I search for the file on my computer but it shows up nowhere. anyone else have the same deal?

How do I get the cheat codes to work in PT2?

This game is so stupid cause i cant get any prisoners

OMG this game sucks. It takes like hours for the prisoners to get off of the bus. And then on the screen words come up that says I have wasted all of my funds.

Ok now ive read most of the things here
the game is easy to play the problem most ppl are facing is that they can't get prisoners & running out of money
u can save money by paying guards less and not building everything at once
if u have 5 low security guards they get payed $25 thats thats $125 just for them 5 guards ppl build around 12 towers thats 12 guards thats $300
as the guard levels go up the more they get payed
so don't get as many guards keep buildings to a minimum and don't allow many prisoners in.

If u play on PT2 to get prisoners simple open the main gate and fast forward time it only took me 10 mins to get 8 prisoners and Med level security.

read the manual it explains most things and i was only playing the game for 60 mins trial

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i just bought prison tycoon 2 maximum security and i cant get it to install properly...i install the game but when i click to play it it gives me an error message box and it says "Direct3D renderer creator cant be found" can ayone tell me how to fix this problem so i can actually play the game if so please email me at JersyCityBadGuy@aol.com

Love this game! But it crashes ALOT! How I fix this prob? Thanks all!

Everytime I go to play Prison Tycoon 2 there is a bug that keeps me from playing it. Does anyone know how to get rid of the bugs in this game so I can play?

YOU PEOPLE ARE STUPID.IT TOOK ME 1O MINS TO FIGURE OUT THIS GAME AND DIRECTIONS AND IM ONLEY 12 AND IM HAVING NO TRUBLES.IDOTS IDOTS

How do you hire more guards?

Again, just getting to medium security and BOOM----Prison Tycoon 2 Has encountered an error.......WTF???????????????????